I don’t know why I let Chesya Burke direct me to RaceFail on teh Interwebz. There’s plenty enough out there without me having to seek it out. Yet, when she calls in that “I ain’t playing. I’m about to choke somebody” voice, I have to check it out. Let this be a lesson to you: quit winding her up, cause she winds me up, and I got deadlines.
The cause of the umbrage is the fact that this month’s BET Awards will be a royal affair: Prince is getting a lifetime achievement honor. The 51-year-old joins the likes of James Brown, Whitney Houston, Diana Ross and Al Green in being honored by the BET Awards, which will celebrate its 10th year in Los Angeles on June 27.
The thread in question involved this old chestnut: “One would think that since we’ve come so far as to have a black president we wouldn’t need award programs where the winners have to be of a particular ethnicity. Imagine the hate and protest that would come if there was a White Entertainment Television channel and awards ceremony, or a White Miss America Pageant. Are these ethnic-centered events still needed? Are they racist? What are your thoughts?”
My first thoughts: this will mark the first time I’ve wanted to tune into BET since A.J. and Free were the hosts of 106th and Park.
Now to parse the fail. I’m not going to cast this person as racist. It’s a question that on the surface is a gut reaction to what one might see as unfair. I’ll accept that premise at its word. However, as I’ve said before, just because folks are your friends doesn’t mean that they aren’t capable of saying and doing ignorant things.
Fail #1: I was right there in the elation of electing President Obama, believing that I’d never see that day in my lifetime. Of course, the fact that so many still had that sentiment ought to put this whole conversation in check, but I’ll continue anyway. I know the temptation is to believe that now that we have a black president, the sins of racism have now been erased and we can move forward. I guess this ignores the entirety of history as I double check to see where someone breaks the color barrier, say Jackie Robinson, all of the racism just goes away. Just like with Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith coaching in the Super Bowl, the first black head coaches to do so. It doesn’t, and the backwash of latent racism his election has churned up should be evidence that we haven’t come as far and aren’t as sophisticated as we’d like to believe ourselves to be. Plus, I don’t look to politics and politicians to cure what is a heart issue.
Fail #2: The old “White Entertainment Television”, “White Miss America Pageant”, and because I’m in a generous mood, I’ll toss in one for free, “White Expo” argument. Now, I’ll spare you my standard quips (“WET? Yeah, we’ve always just called it ABC, CBS, or NBC.” “White Miss America Pageant? It was only recently the pageant even realized there were beautiful women of color in this country to begin with.” “White Expo? Really, cause we let you have NASCAR.”). Just like you can spare me conveniently overlooking the fact that BET, Black Miss America Pageants, and Black Expos (and I’ll throw in Historically Black Colleges since it won’t be but 30 seconds before someone throws in their tale of woe about not getting a scholarship because they aren’t black) wouldn’t have been necessary in the first place if black people hadn’t been shut out of institutions.
Now, horror has had its own legacy of RaceFail, so I turn to it to answer the question “What would the protest look like?” It would look something like when Brandon Massey was doing the anthology series, Dark Dreams. All of a sudden, many white “recognized racism when they saw it.” They thumped their chests loudly at this “brand of segregation” and “affirmative action writing” … when we’re not even a year out of yet another “best of” anthology series having a table of contents featuring only white men. So again, it’d be nice to declare us in a post-racial era, but let’s actually live like we’re in one first before we declare us there.
Fail #3: Privilege and the “need for such things”. Being a majority in a society, holding the bulk of the power, with the weight of history and social institution behind you, it’s easy to see any inroad/erosion of that as unfair. In your quest for colorblindness, you don’t realize how much that negates people of color. As I said at the conclusion of my blog on white privilege (and, yeah, for the sake of continued conversation, I no longer refer to “white privilege” as “crackernomics”): I know, I know, you gentle white souls, this means you rage against the gods of political correctness as your slice of the American Dream pie continues to get cut into. The conversations are tough, exposing your possible denial, defensiveness, guilt, and shame of benefiting from systemic injustice. Be strong white people.
As for the need for such things, I look to institutions such as the “black church”. It was a miracle that it came about in the first place and it still serves a vital function in the black community. Would I like to see a post-racial church? Absolutely. Just as I recognize that it will take continued serious work and conversations to make it happen. Until then, you can’t keep complaining that all the black kids sit with each other in the cafeteria. Sometimes, we just need to.
Asking those questions isn’t racist. It’s ignorance and there’s nothing wrong with ignorance as long as we’re willing to listen and learn. I want to hold hands and sing “Kumbaya” as much as the next person, but we aren’t there yet. Hopefully we can keep having conversations until we get to this post-racial Nirvana we all are so ready to skip ahead to.





“Fail #2: The old ‘White Entertainment Television’, ‘White Miss America Pageant’, and because I’m in a generous mood, I’ll toss in one for free, ‘White Expo’ argument. ”
I had a similar conversation with someone who voiced the same sentiment during black expo. I pointed out that here in Indianapolis we have Oktoberfest, The Russian Festival, The Italian Festival, The Greek Festival, and The Irish Fest. I even came across Festival Latino that is being hosted at IU September 24. Cool thing about these festivals is those who are attending don’t have to have an ounce of the ancestry. It’s about learning from the different backgrounds that make up the human story. Black Expo is the same way, because there are white people that go.
I agree with you that it’s going to take a lot of tough conversations before we all sit at the same table. White people griping about the segregation they feel with things like Black Expo, or even BET will be a stumbling block. My thought is maybe if they kept their trap shut they would learn something so that there would be something to add to the conversation besides complaining and moaning.
However, the wise ass in me is pointing to NASCAR as the ultimate white expo.
I agree, Maurice. I’m sad that racism isn’t over, but if the election of Barack Obama proves nothing else, it proves how many people are still willing to hate for no other reason THAN racism. Don’t tell me that the first U.S. President of African/American descent comes in for the rudest and most uncooperative attitude in the history of the republic because he’s somehow dumb, or incompetent, or a socialist, or any of that other B.S. If Barack Obama had had a honeymoon from the other party, like all presidents before him, and if people on the right wing extremes weren’t suddenly saying they need to “take back my country” when, in fact, 53% of the voting electorate chose this man and he IS the president of what is STILL the country of all of us, then I’d say the need for any special consideration of black artists as a group had probably passed. But when you see unprecedented anger and hatred doled out to a new U.S. President, and the ONLY difference between him and all the new presidents before him (except he’s smarter than most of them) is the color of his skin, you gotta know things still aren’t right.
Yeah, this was complete FAIL. My favorite lines:
“What would we have on wet(White Entertainment Television)? The brady bunch? there is not really any “white” tv shows.” In other words, shows with mostly black characters are black shows, but shows with mostly white characters are not white shows.
“I don’t see how self-segregating equalizes anything. Don’t whine to me about wanting equality and then set yourself completely apart.” Whine to HER about wanting equality? Really… So, PoC don’t automatically deserve “equality” we have to beg individual white people for it. There are no words…
And my personal favorite: “Dude… You are so not the first person to make this observation… Try being a high school senior and you don’t qualify for a certain scholarship because you’re white… Been there…” This person qualified for other scholarships but this ONE and now all of a sudden they’re oppressed. Please.
Yeah, no time for silliness. My response: http://chesyaburke.livejournal.com/8540.html
Am I a hopelessly naive white person because my only thought when I heard Prince was getting the LAW was, “Cool.” And then, “Omg, are we all really THAT old?” Also, because it never crossed my mind to question BET, Black Expo, or anything else like that? Am I just really a stupid fucking idiot?
Well, yes, we are that old. And honestly, when I first ran across the original announcement, all I thought about writing about was how Prince was genius and I needed to record that show.
The most ridiculous argument comes in the form of “Soon white people won’t be the majority.” Well, yes they will, if we’re talking about power. There are more women than men in the US but women remain a power minority. We can have statistically “more” people of color within the US borders, but that doesn’t change the power – I think many long-time residents of South Africa might agree.
I have no tolerance for the whining of straight white folks.
Obama’s election has brought a lot of ugliness to the surface. A discouraging amount. But there’s a certain panicky shrillness to it, the wail of a dying culture that knows its power is sinking fast.
I hope in the broader sense this signals a quickening of the death throes that is racism and bigotry. I think there are long, painful years ahead; I also think this violent burst of hysteria that has afflicted the nation is a symptom of poison slowly leaving the system.
I hate Nascar. Can I just dance to Prince?
‘I also think this violent burst of hysteria that has afflicted the nation is a symptom of poison slowly leaving the system.’
that would be awesome.
i’m not sure i have as much hope as you, but i would like to think that we are in the process of moving forward.
I don’t see why people can’t despise all of humanity equally, like I do.
Okay, so that’s a joke and an extreme generalization, but not a day goes by when I’m not struck by just how ugly people can be to each other. You’d think after a few centuries we’d be a little better at being human, but it’s like most of the world still has training wheels on.
It’s a sad state of affairs when people judge anything by color with possible exception of their car or the exterior of their homes.
When I was younger I was often puzzled by Black History Month and several other ethnocentric notions, but only because my mother taught all of my family to believe that skin color makes no difference. I was very fortunate along those lines. Without that simple and painless philosophy my life would have been far less rewarding than it has been. And Maurice, you are dead right. Ignorance is a condition that can be rectified. I have already seen changes for the better in my lifetime and I hope that trend continues.
I did my own response here: http://michelelee.net/blog/2010/06/stuff-you-say/ which I hope adds to the discussion. Though in retrospect I meant to add that NASCAR, the epitome (apparently) of white culture actually started from rum runners souping up their cars to outrun cops. This makes it infinitely more cool in my eyes. Still not something I plan to spend any time, money or brain cells on.
Long ago, Northern Europeans allowed their religion to be taken from them by the sweeping crush of Christianity, and then, as they came to this continent, traded away what little was left of their culture to American homogenized mediocrity.
What we are witnessing through all this fervor over racism is, at its root, fear.
“Obama’s election has brought a lot of ugliness to the surface. A discouraging amount. But there’s a certain panicky shrillness to it, the wail of a dying culture that knows its power is sinking fast.”
Laird, I have always said it’s because they’re dying, their way of life is dying and that great yesterday (that wasn’t so great to anyone other than them) that they keep trying to get back to, is dying.
It’s like adults reminiscing about their childhood that they can’t get back. At the time they were children, and of course they didn’t see the horror of the time. But when you grow up, and look back at the past, you’re supposed to then see and understand (not only what your parents when through and kept from you because…well, you were a kid) but also the horrible place that the country was in. You’re not supposed to want to go back after understanding these things.
You know, Penn & Teller did a whole episode about nostalgia and it was very creepy. I agree, Chesya. It does come at least partially from a very creepy, blinded kind of nostalgia.
You are so freakin’ awesome. Thank you so much for this.
Hmmm. I think that when you continue to perpetuathe idea that we are all different based on color, racism will be there. Those who want it to go away should let go of the need to be separate.
Itis so odd that in this country that is called “the melting pot”, that we segregate into “little pots” and now special interest is destroying our country.
There was a comment about it being all about fear. Is it more the fear of some white folks who think that they are losing their power, or more the fear of so called “minorities” pushing too hard in the hope that the white power will go away for good, even at the expense of harming many well-meaning decent, non-racist people.
Maurice knows well the hardships I have faced, and being white did not help me at all. Matter of fact, being white has made it so I get no help with my education, (which cost me 40 grand and still paying.)made it so I could not get any assistance as a single father going to school full-time. Had I been a minority, I would have had alot of support from “Uncle Sam”. Had I been a female, (since for some crazy reason they are called a minority)I would have gotten all the support as well.
I was told many years ago, when I got out of prison, that I would not have to be worried about being discriminated against for my past issues,
but being white has completely negated any assistance I would have gotten.
Point is, I have had no help, I came through hell, and made a life for myself and my son, and supported all the special interest groups along the way with my tax dollars. Affirmative action has run it’s course and now is a burden to more people than it helps.
I think it is time for all of the separation and segregation, that is perpetuated by the special interest groups themselves, to go away. I am living proof that you do not have to have government help, when you cultivate good friendships by giving your life and time to others, and not just looking for what someone else can do for me.
Hope I did not piss anyone off to much, but this is my experience.
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But Scott, people ARE different because they have different colored skin. That’s the beauty of it. It would be specious to say Chesya and I don’t have different skin. Now, to say Chesya and I both have BEAUTIFUL skin, that would be prefectly correct. Why do we have to ignore differences? Why can’t we cherish them?
Ok I got to chime in on this Im confused and maybe you will say Im ignorant. First, I am a white man and I do not expect an answer of “fix” from what I have to say. I don’t have a problem with BET if I don’t want to see whats on there I don’t have to watch. Black Ms America? ok. A black president- I can fully appreciate what that means to a person of color. I will say that I do not like Barack Obama. However I do not feel that my opinion has anything to do with race. I had high hopes for this man, but have been disappointed in his actions and inactions. The reason I wanted to say something is to express that we are not through with racism yet. I wish we could be. But I see racism on both sides of that racial line. Ive been called a cracker, ive been called a honky(just about a year ago, I thought that wasnt used anymore). I thought it was funny. The other person didn’t know me. I was working and the color of ones skin did not matter to me when I had to collect.
The time has come where we All need to try to work on this. Im sick of racist BS. White people talking their crap just cause they think its ok cause Im white. Its not. And far be it for someone to say something racist in front of my children. I do not want them to hear that crap. But I do not want someone calling my 2 year old a cracker either.
As far as writers are concerned. I dont know. I really dont know of that many black authors. However I dont choose what I read cause of race. Mr. Broaddus,I have not read your work other than Night of the Living Baseheads. That has nothing to do with race, I just havent seen anything by you in my local bookstore and don’t order from small press much. But I do want to read more of your work.
Ok I may have gotten no where in this rant but one last thing. I feel its time for black people to take ownership in this country. It cant all be the white persons fault. ok Im done. Am I ignorant?
*applauds*
Great post! We need more writers of color to stand up when sh1t like this happens. I should not be amazed–I mean, you’d think I’d be desensitized to this sort of crap by now, but no. It still makes me shake my head.
*shakes head*